What is Wrong with Hiring

The podcast where we try to understand why hiring and getting hired in tech are both absolute nightmares, and maybe figure out what to do about it. Hosted by Laura Klein and Amy Santee.

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What is Wrong with Hiring

Why is it such a pain in the ass to hire and get hired in tech? Join co-hosts Laura Klein and Amy Santee as they attempt to figure out what the heck is going on with hiring in this ridiculous industry. 

The answers may surprise and infuriate you! Ok, they probably won't totally surprise you, and will likely infuriate you. Tune in for new perspectives from hiring managers, candidates, and talent professionals who are working toward solutions. Plus a bit of mild entertainment to alleviate the frustration.

About the Hosts

Amy Santee spent over a decade working in tech and is a career strategist for experienced professionals asking what comes next when their work no longer fits who they are.

Laura Klein has been in tech for far too long. She is the author of Build Better Products & UX for Lean Startups.

Episodes

Sep 6, 2022

34 min

In this episode, Laura talks to Cindy Alvarez, Director of UX for Powerpoint, about how to figure out what sort of hire you really need and write a job description targeted to the right folks. 
Drink pairing: Sparkling Rose

Aug 9, 2022

48 min

In this episode, Laura talks to Bryan Cantrill, CTO of Oxide, about a wildly different approach to recruiting and hiring. 
Drink Pairing: Diet Dr. Pepper

Aug 2, 2022

33 min

In this episode, Laura talks with Lisa Dusseault, CTO and Co-founder of Compaas about how to make sure you're making the right offer and paying people fairly for their work. 
Drink Pairing: California Chardonnay (properly chilled!) 
 
 

Jul 26, 2022

38 min

In this episode, Laura talks with James Mayes, Founder at Mind the Product and currently an Evangelist at Pendo about why recruiting in tech is so hard and why recruiting technology can make it even harder. 
Pendo is hiring! 
Drink Pairing: Pinot Noir

Jul 19, 2022

27 min

In this episode, Laura talks to Emmy Southworth, Principal Product Manager at Lendio about how she created an apprenticeship program to create new designers. 
Interested in working with Emmy? Lendio is hiring! 
Drink Pairing: Draft Diet Dr. Pepper
 

Jul 12, 2022

38 min

In this episode, Laura interviews Lawrence Humphry and Fallon Blossom, the co-founders of Pearl. They talk about finding tech folks from non-traditional backgrounds and creating a better hiring pipeline. 
Pearl is a brand new platform for peer based leadership consulting where you can get wisdom and guidance from people you trust. 
Drink Pairings: Berry Sparkling Water or an Old Fashioned, depending on time of day
(note from Laura: it's a big world. it's always happy hour somewhere)
 

Jul 5, 2022

35 min

In this episode, Laura interviews Sarah Milstein, VP of Engineering at Daily. They talk about how to position smaller companies to compete with the big corporations and be appealing even in a hot market. 
Drink Pairing: Lambrusco

Jun 28, 2022

38 min

In this episode, Laura talks with Tracy Kroop, the Director of User Experience at Boomi, about how hiring managers can forge a great relationship with recruiters and how the process is largely broken. 
Interested in working with Tracy? Boomi is hiring!  
Drink Pairing: Old Fashioned

Jun 21, 2022

32 min

In this episode, Laura interviews Jess Dale, a Senior Product Design Manager at an ecommerce company, about how to onboard new hires in a way that makes them feel like they weren't lied to during the recruiting process! 
Drink Pairing: Anything from the Athletic Brewing Company

Jun 14, 2022

28 min

In this episode, Laura talks with Sara Howes, SVP of Product at Diesel Laptops about building a new product team from scratch in a very subject matter heavy industry. 
Sara is hiring!
Drink pairing: Black coffee

Jun 7, 2022

33 min

In this episode, Laura interviews Julia DeBari, a UX designer and educator turned recruiter. Julia shares her perspective on what hiring managers are asking for from designers and how she goes about finding the right fit for candidates. 
Drink pairing: Aperol Spritz

May 31, 2022

33 min

In this episode, Laura talks with Dani Nordin, a Product Design Architect at Athena Health, about what happens when you decide you need to structure your own role. They want you to know that deciding you don't want to be a manager isn't a personal failing!
 
Drink pairing: Athletic Brewing Company Run Wild IPA (Non-alcoholic)

May 24, 2022

34 min

In this episode, Laura interviews Sarah Merlin, Associate Director of Product Design at Curology. Sarah shares tips about working with internal recruiters who might not be familiar with hiring in your domain and how to hire a lot of designers in a short period of time (it's possible!). 
Interested in working with Sarah? She is hiring!
 
Drink pairing: Kirkland tequila on the rocks with a splash of lime

May 17, 2022

32 min

In this episode, Laura talks with Amy Santee about what candidates really want to know, what it's like hiring designers and other tech people right now, and what hiring managers can do to make it easier for everybody. 
Amy Santee is a Career Strategist and Coach for UX professionals who want to design their careers with intention and bring their good to the world. As a personal growth nerd, Amy loves partnering with individuals to build confidence and courage, develop a unique professional brand, navigate work environments, and find jobs they love. Prior to coaching, Amy built a career as a UX researcher, working on end-to-end product development and strategy with all flavors of organizations, including eBay, Lowe's, General Motors, and the City of Portland. 
 
Drink Pairing: H20 (It's rough out there. Stay hydrated!)

May 10, 2022

29 min

In this episode, Laura interviews Kim Bieler, UX Director at Expel. They talk about hiring generalist designers vs specialists and how if you learn to design for cyber security, you will end up with job security. 
As of May 2022, Kim's team is hiring! Check out these two open roles: 
Senior UX Designer, growth
Senior UX Designer, analyst experience
Drink Pairing: Really Good Boxed Wine

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